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		<title>Comment on Arscott Pomeroy (Holsworthy tree) by JOhn Pomeroy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry about the interupted message yesterday. I would like to thank Derek MacPherson a cousin Australia for finding Arscott and his wife In Montreal for the 1861 Canadian census. He was also able to find a second marriage for Arscott to Anna Speedlove, Montreal Canada in 1866. No records for either spouses death have been found to date.
Merry Christmas
John Pomeroy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the interupted message yesterday. I would like to thank Derek MacPherson a cousin Australia for finding Arscott and his wife In Montreal for the 1861 Canadian census. He was also able to find a second marriage for Arscott to Anna Speedlove, Montreal Canada in 1866. No records for either spouses death have been found to date.<br />
Merry Christmas<br />
John Pomeroy</p>
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		<title>Comment on PFA Branded Clothing by admin</title>
		<link>http://pomeroyfamilyhistory.org.uk/2009/07/15/24/#comment-9</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our clothing is now available for purchase!

We&#039;re selling a greyish T-shirt and a blue fleece, both embroidered with the red Pomeroy Family Association logo.

To find out more about prices and sizes, and to order, please contact committee member Phillip Pomeroy on pom.holcot@googlemail.com

Chris]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our clothing is now available for purchase!</p>
<p>We&#8217;re selling a greyish T-shirt and a blue fleece, both embroidered with the red Pomeroy Family Association logo.</p>
<p>To find out more about prices and sizes, and to order, please contact committee member Phillip Pomeroy on <a href="mailto:pom.holcot@googlemail.com">pom.holcot@googlemail.com</a></p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>Comment on Henry E Pomeroy, British diplomat by Pat Pomeroy</title>
		<link>http://pomeroyfamilyhistory.org.uk/2008/11/30/henry-e-pomeroy/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat Pomeroy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been busy researching this as there is no one left in the family to ask.  The Foreign Office has been very helpful and although they cannot find any evidence of &#039;Uncle Harry&#039; helping the Jews escape, they have come up with details of his career.

&quot;I can confirm that, according to our Foreign Office staff lists, his career was as follows:

He was temporarily appointed as Pro-Consul in Berlin on April 18th, 1923; the appointment was made permanent in February 1926. He was given the rank of Vice-Consul in October 1928 and was then Acting Consul every year from 1928 to 1935, before becoming Acting Consul-General, 1936-38. Mr Pomeroy returned to London and was appointed a Cipher Officer in October 1939 before being appointed as Vice-Consul at Basle in Switzerland on April 8th, 1940. Six months later, on September 1st, he was appointed Clerical Assistant at the Legation in Berne.&quot;

I have also been given some references to follow up at TNA.

Pat Pomeroy [neice by marriage]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been busy researching this as there is no one left in the family to ask.  The Foreign Office has been very helpful and although they cannot find any evidence of &#8216;Uncle Harry&#8217; helping the Jews escape, they have come up with details of his career.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can confirm that, according to our Foreign Office staff lists, his career was as follows:</p>
<p>He was temporarily appointed as Pro-Consul in Berlin on April 18th, 1923; the appointment was made permanent in February 1926. He was given the rank of Vice-Consul in October 1928 and was then Acting Consul every year from 1928 to 1935, before becoming Acting Consul-General, 1936-38. Mr Pomeroy returned to London and was appointed a Cipher Officer in October 1939 before being appointed as Vice-Consul at Basle in Switzerland on April 8th, 1940. Six months later, on September 1st, he was appointed Clerical Assistant at the Legation in Berne.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have also been given some references to follow up at TNA.</p>
<p>Pat Pomeroy [neice by marriage]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Robert Pomery, Christian captive of Algiers&#8217; pirates by anipom</title>
		<link>http://pomeroyfamilyhistory.org.uk/2008/11/29/8/#comment-7</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in Teignmouth where the hero of the Battle of Algiers, Edward Pellew, built a house, now called Bitton House. The musuem, where I am hons.. education officer , has a display to him and if anyone is interested in additional  info Im sure I can find a lot more .
After the Algiers victory, Edward Pellew, Lord Exmouth was made Commander-in-Chief Plymouth and settled in Bitton House, becoming a great benefactor to the town and was responsible for the rebuilding of part of St. James’ Church, West Teignmouth.
In 1832 he was appointed Vice Admiral of the United Kingdom.  He died at Bitton House,Teignmouth in 1833 and was buried at Christow. The flag under which he fought at Algiers was used for the pall and a young oak, to bear his name, was planted near the grave. The museum has recently acquired the flag, although until our new annex is built in 2010 we have nowhere to display it,  it is HUGE!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Teignmouth where the hero of the Battle of Algiers, Edward Pellew, built a house, now called Bitton House. The musuem, where I am hons.. education officer , has a display to him and if anyone is interested in additional  info Im sure I can find a lot more .<br />
After the Algiers victory, Edward Pellew, Lord Exmouth was made Commander-in-Chief Plymouth and settled in Bitton House, becoming a great benefactor to the town and was responsible for the rebuilding of part of St. James’ Church, West Teignmouth.<br />
In 1832 he was appointed Vice Admiral of the United Kingdom.  He died at Bitton House,Teignmouth in 1833 and was buried at Christow. The flag under which he fought at Algiers was used for the pall and a young oak, to bear his name, was planted near the grave. The museum has recently acquired the flag, although until our new annex is built in 2010 we have nowhere to display it,  it is HUGE!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eltweed’s baptism: a fake? by annie Pomeroy</title>
		<link>http://pomeroyfamilyhistory.org.uk/2008/11/28/eltweeds-baptism-a-fake/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[annie Pomeroy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris will confirm this I believe

The &quot;Eltweed DNA signature&quot; cannot possibly be linked to that of the only tested descendant of the Viscounts Harberton, understood as the direct male line from the ancient family.

Annie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris will confirm this I believe</p>
<p>The &#8220;Eltweed DNA signature&#8221; cannot possibly be linked to that of the only tested descendant of the Viscounts Harberton, understood as the direct male line from the ancient family.</p>
<p>Annie</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eltweed’s baptism: a fake? by Alma LaFrance</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Annie: Thanks for your comment: My focus was on the note by Chris, in his comprehensive, well crafted  2008 Annual Report,  that the 1585 bpt record of  Eltweed Pomeroy. was questionable...well....maybe even bogus.
A misunderstanding. Thanks for correcting that, Chris.

The A. A. Pomeroy/Bartlett issue would be  &quot;water under the bridge,&quot; but for the circulation and re-circulation on  the World Wide Web of various  Eltweed Pomeroy ancestries.  The kind of &quot;circumstantial evidence&quot; and   &quot;lateral thinking&quot; that was engaged in 100 years ago in developing the Eltweed Pomeroy ancestry just won&#039;t do.

Now Annie, your provided a clip from a post by Maggie Wilcox on Genforum: Anderson is just muddying already muddy waters; no original research; simply repeating earlier controversies.   Here is a link to my response to her post.  http://genforum.genealogy.com/pomeroy/messages/1052.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Annie: Thanks for your comment: My focus was on the note by Chris, in his comprehensive, well crafted  2008 Annual Report,  that the 1585 bpt record of  Eltweed Pomeroy. was questionable&#8230;well&#8230;.maybe even bogus.<br />
A misunderstanding. Thanks for correcting that, Chris.</p>
<p>The A. A. Pomeroy/Bartlett issue would be  &#8220;water under the bridge,&#8221; but for the circulation and re-circulation on  the World Wide Web of various  Eltweed Pomeroy ancestries.  The kind of &#8220;circumstantial evidence&#8221; and   &#8220;lateral thinking&#8221; that was engaged in 100 years ago in developing the Eltweed Pomeroy ancestry just won&#8217;t do.</p>
<p>Now Annie, your provided a clip from a post by Maggie Wilcox on Genforum: Anderson is just muddying already muddy waters; no original research; simply repeating earlier controversies.   Here is a link to my response to her post.  <a href="http://genforum.genealogy.com/pomeroy/messages/1052.html" rel="nofollow">http://genforum.genealogy.com/pomeroy/messages/1052.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Robert Pomery, Christian captive of Algiers&#8217; pirates by annie Pomeroy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[annie Pomeroy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There were a surprising number of pirates around in the 17th century. I work at the local museum and we found a ransom note recently dated 1683, demanding £40 for a local chap held captive by pirates and this was in Teignmouth in Devon! It was a tiny place back then.
I also found this
George Pomeroy Captain commanding on HMS Rupert 24 June 1690 until July 1690, died of his wounds received in the Battle of Beachy Head.
The French Fleet then laid into Teignmouth and plundered the town burning houses ships and nets leaving the population homeless and without means to sustain itself. No one was killed because most of the men were away fishing for cod off Newfoundland and those who were left fled to the hills.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were a surprising number of pirates around in the 17th century. I work at the local museum and we found a ransom note recently dated 1683, demanding £40 for a local chap held captive by pirates and this was in Teignmouth in Devon! It was a tiny place back then.<br />
I also found this<br />
George Pomeroy Captain commanding on HMS Rupert 24 June 1690 until July 1690, died of his wounds received in the Battle of Beachy Head.<br />
The French Fleet then laid into Teignmouth and plundered the town burning houses ships and nets leaving the population homeless and without means to sustain itself. No one was killed because most of the men were away fishing for cod off Newfoundland and those who were left fled to the hills.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eltweed’s baptism: a fake? by annie Pomeroy</title>
		<link>http://pomeroyfamilyhistory.org.uk/2008/11/28/eltweeds-baptism-a-fake/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[annie Pomeroy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this years ago and put it on my website

an interesting posting from Maggie Wilcox 9 May 2003
on genforum from genealogy.com

The Eltweed fraud

Thanks to author of the Great Migration Begins Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, V. 3, P-W page 1489-90, Mr. Robert Charles Anderson, I looked up his reference to the Ancestry of Colonel John Harrington Stevens and his wife Frances Helen Miller by Mary Lovering Holman, pub. 1948 when I was researching at the LDS Family History Center in Salt Lake City. On page 392 The Pomeroy Line, Ms. Miller states that
&quot;Richard Pomeroy, probably born in Dorsetshire, about 1650, died, probably in Beaminster, Dorset, before 1635. He married Mary -----, who died after 1635.
&quot;Little has been learned of this Richard Pomeroy but his family seems to have been the only one in Beaminster at this time. The late J. Gardner Bartlett, discovered the marriage, in the registers of Crewkerne, Somerset, of Eltweed Pomeroy of Beaminster and published it in the NEHGS&#039;s Register, 59:215, stating that he believed it to be that of the immigrant to New England.
In 1913, finding that a claim had been made that Richard, father of Eltweed, belonged to the ancient armorial family of Pomeroy, of Berry Pomeroy, Devon, he had the Beaminster transcript searched; the Registers of this parish do not begin until 1684; but the transcripts commence in 1585 (with numerous gaps between 1585 and 1638). This was done by Mrs. Bartlett, formerly Elizabeth French. The Pomeroy items were published by Mr. Bartlett (ibid. 67:261) and show that Eltweed and others were children of Richard Pomeroy, who apparently died before 1635.
At the time the Pomeroy Genealogy was printed, some unscrupulous person, examining the records of the family of Pomeroy, of Berry Pomeroy, found in the Department of Manuscripts in the British Museum (Harleian Ms., 1091) a pedigree of the family, in which is entered the name of a Richard Pomeroy and assumed that this man was Eltweed&#039;s father. This manuscript was photographed and the name of &#039;Eltweed&#039; added as a child of this Richard and then re-photographed and used as a frontispiece for the genealogy!
The fraud however was obvious to anyone conversant with old writing, the name of Eltweed not only being an evident attempt to copy the writing of the period, but also, it does not appear in the least the same as the rest on the pedigree. Mr. Bartlett seeing the fraud, had further work done and found the will of the Richard, of Berry Pomeroy, the supposed father of Eltweed, which will, with others of the family, shows that Richard died childless, and was of Cornworthy, Devon.
These discoveries were published (ibid., 68:47), together with a plate of the Berry Pomeroy pedigree, as it appears in Harleian Ms., 1091, and if this true photograph is compared with that in the Pomeroy Genealogy, even a novice can see the falsity of the addition.&quot;
(Note: The compiler of the Pomeroy Gen., was unwilling to accept Mr. Bartlett&#039;s work and a controversy followed.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this years ago and put it on my website</p>
<p>an interesting posting from Maggie Wilcox 9 May 2003<br />
on genforum from genealogy.com</p>
<p>The Eltweed fraud</p>
<p>Thanks to author of the Great Migration Begins Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, V. 3, P-W page 1489-90, Mr. Robert Charles Anderson, I looked up his reference to the Ancestry of Colonel John Harrington Stevens and his wife Frances Helen Miller by Mary Lovering Holman, pub. 1948 when I was researching at the LDS Family History Center in Salt Lake City. On page 392 The Pomeroy Line, Ms. Miller states that<br />
&#8220;Richard Pomeroy, probably born in Dorsetshire, about 1650, died, probably in Beaminster, Dorset, before 1635. He married Mary &#8212;&#8211;, who died after 1635.<br />
&#8220;Little has been learned of this Richard Pomeroy but his family seems to have been the only one in Beaminster at this time. The late J. Gardner Bartlett, discovered the marriage, in the registers of Crewkerne, Somerset, of Eltweed Pomeroy of Beaminster and published it in the NEHGS&#8217;s Register, 59:215, stating that he believed it to be that of the immigrant to New England.<br />
In 1913, finding that a claim had been made that Richard, father of Eltweed, belonged to the ancient armorial family of Pomeroy, of Berry Pomeroy, Devon, he had the Beaminster transcript searched; the Registers of this parish do not begin until 1684; but the transcripts commence in 1585 (with numerous gaps between 1585 and 1638). This was done by Mrs. Bartlett, formerly Elizabeth French. The Pomeroy items were published by Mr. Bartlett (ibid. 67:261) and show that Eltweed and others were children of Richard Pomeroy, who apparently died before 1635.<br />
At the time the Pomeroy Genealogy was printed, some unscrupulous person, examining the records of the family of Pomeroy, of Berry Pomeroy, found in the Department of Manuscripts in the British Museum (Harleian Ms., 1091) a pedigree of the family, in which is entered the name of a Richard Pomeroy and assumed that this man was Eltweed&#8217;s father. This manuscript was photographed and the name of &#8216;Eltweed&#8217; added as a child of this Richard and then re-photographed and used as a frontispiece for the genealogy!<br />
The fraud however was obvious to anyone conversant with old writing, the name of Eltweed not only being an evident attempt to copy the writing of the period, but also, it does not appear in the least the same as the rest on the pedigree. Mr. Bartlett seeing the fraud, had further work done and found the will of the Richard, of Berry Pomeroy, the supposed father of Eltweed, which will, with others of the family, shows that Richard died childless, and was of Cornworthy, Devon.<br />
These discoveries were published (ibid., 68:47), together with a plate of the Berry Pomeroy pedigree, as it appears in Harleian Ms., 1091, and if this true photograph is compared with that in the Pomeroy Genealogy, even a novice can see the falsity of the addition.&#8221;<br />
(Note: The compiler of the Pomeroy Gen., was unwilling to accept Mr. Bartlett&#8217;s work and a controversy followed.)<br />
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